Recovery Scams – Being Approached Again After You Have Already Lost Money
High RiskOverview
You lost money to a scam. Weeks, months or years later, somebody contacts you about it. They know what happened — the firm, roughly what you paid, sometimes the date — and they say they can get it back. They may present as a recovery agent, a law firm, a regulator or a government department. Before the money can be released, there is a payment to make first. The Central Bank of Ireland treats this as a stage of the fraud rather than a footnote to it. Its guidance on avoiding scams carries a section headed "Avoid being targeted a second time", and the wording is blunt: "If you have been a victim of a scam or fraud, you are likely to be targeted again. This could be weeks or years after the original scam or fraud took place." On what that second approach offers, it says: "Often you may be offered what seems like a chance of recovering the money you lost on the original scam or fraud. This could take many forms but will usually involve sending some sort of fee in order to recover your money." It names the shapes the fee takes — "a supposed tax, government administration fee, re-bonding fee etc." — and warns that the people behind it "will often pose as fictitious government agencies, issuing you with fraudulent papers regarding legal action, non-disclosure agreements, copies of share certificates etc". Of that paperwork it says only: "Be advised these documents can look official and genuine." The question most readers ask first is how the caller knew. The Central Bank answers that too, under a second heading, "Beware of new scams": "fraudsters trade contact details with each other, known as 'sucker lists' and take the view that as you have been a victim of a previous scam or fraud that they will be able to persuade you to part with your money again for a new scam or fraud". Read that once more, because it inverts the test most people apply. The caller's knowledge of your loss is not evidence that they are genuine. It is the reason they rang you. An Garda Síochána lists Advance Fee Fraud among the six most common types of fraud in Ireland today, describing it as fraud that "involves criminals targeting victims to make advance or upfront payments for goods, services or financial gains that do not materialize". A recovery scam is that fraud in its purest form, because the thing being paid for in advance is the victim's own money.
Typical Targets
- •Anyone who has already lost money to a scam of any kind. The Central Bank states that if you have been a victim "you are likely to be targeted again"
- •People whose contact details were handed over during the original scam — which is almost every victim, because the Central Bank describes fraudsters trading those details on what it calls "sucker lists"
- •Older savers who lost an investment, for whom a second payment comes out of what the first one left
- •Anyone who reported a loss, or spoke about it publicly in a review, a comment or a social-media post
- •People approached about an investment before, who may now be offered what the Central Bank describes as "a completely new investment opportunity with a new firm, website, contact details and personnel"
- •Recent arrivals to Ireland, who may not know what a genuine contact from the Central Bank, the Gardaí or a government department normally looks like
Why This Scam Works
- •It arrives as relief, not as a threat. Every other page on this site teaches you to distrust pressure and urgency; this approach opens by offering to undo a loss you have already taken
- •The caller can quote real details of the original scam, because they hold them. Treating that as proof is the trap the whole scam turns on — the Central Bank's explanation is that "fraudsters trade contact details with each other, known as 'sucker lists'"
- •The paperwork survives a careful look. The Central Bank warns that operators issue "fraudulent papers regarding legal action, non-disclosure agreements, copies of share certificates etc", and that "these documents can look official and genuine"
- •The name on the approach is one you would already trust. The Central Bank says the operators "will often pose as fictitious government agencies"
- •The fee is sized against the sum being "recovered" rather than against your means, so it reads as the last small step rather than as a second loss
- •Having reported the original scam makes the call more plausible, not less: the reader assumes somebody acted on the report
- •It may not mention the old scam at all. The Central Bank describes the re-approach arriving as a completely new opportunity, with a new firm, a new website and new people, which is why "I would spot it a second time" is not the protection it feels like
Real Example
“This page uses the Central Bank of Ireland's own published description of the approach rather than inventing an Irish victim, because no source we hold names one. The Central Bank sets the pattern out directly: "Often you may be offered what seems like a chance of recovering the money you lost on the original scam or fraud. This could take many forms but will usually involve sending some sort of fee in order to recover your money. Some examples include, a supposed tax, government administration fee, re-bonding fee etc. The scam or fraud operators will often pose as fictitious government agencies, issuing you with fraudulent papers regarding legal action, non-disclosure agreements, copies of share certificates etc." Its verdict on where that ends is the part worth reading twice: "It is highly unlikely you will ever recover your money from the original scam or fraud and this will usually be an attempt by the initial fraudsters to extract even more money from their original victims. Do not send them any more of your money. Report the matter to the Central Bank and the Gardaí." That is the regulator describing the pattern, not a case it has reported, and this page does not present it as one.”
* An illustration published by the body named above, not a reported case.
How to Avoid This Scam
- Treat a fee charged to release your money as the scam itself. The Central Bank's instruction to anyone in this position is "Do not send them any more of your money"
- Take the caller knowing about your loss as a reason to be more suspicious, not less. That knowledge is exactly what the Central Bank means by a "sucker list"
- Hang up, then call back on a number you sourced yourself — from the Central Bank's own site, from garda.ie, or from the back of your bank card. Never a number, link or email address the caller gave you
- Check any firm against the Central Bank's registers at registers.centralbank.ie before anything moves. The Central Bank's own wording is to "Check our Registers to ensure firms are authorised or contact the Central Bank directly on 0818 681 681 or +353 (0)1 224 5800"
- Do not let official-looking paperwork stand in for verification. The Central Bank's warning is that fraudulent documents "can look official and genuine"
- Be as wary of a brand-new offer as of a recovery offer. The Central Bank describes the second approach arriving as "a completely new investment opportunity with a new firm, website, contact details and personnel"
- Remember what the Central Bank says about cold contact generally: "Authorised firms are not normally in the habit of cold calling people with offers to buy or sell shares"
- Every route named at the bottom of this page is free to use. Reporting a fraud in Ireland does not cost you anything, so an offer of help that opens with a payment is not one of them
- Tell someone you trust before any further money moves
If You've Been Caught Out
Don't panic – take these steps immediately:
- 1Send nothing further, whatever stage the "release" is said to be at. The Central Bank's wording is "Do not send them any more of your money"
- 2Report it to An Garda Síochána at your local station. Where you believe you have been the victim of an online scam or fraud, garda.ie tells you to "report it to your local Garda Station, and also use the online reporting service of the website or forum on which you were scammed"
- 3Bring the evidence with you. The Gardaí ask you to bring copies of all emails, account details, copies of the advertisement or online posting, and any other relevant information you hold
- 4Tell your bank straight away if you paid by card or by transfer, and ask it to attempt a recall
- 5Report the firm to the Central Bank of Ireland through its "Report an Unauthorised Firm" form. Its own advice to anyone who has been approached a second time is to "Report the matter to the Central Bank and the Gardaí"
- 6Keep the correspondence — the emails and letters, the documents you were sent, the account details, the phone numbers and your screenshots
- 7Do not count on recovering the original loss. The Central Bank says plainly that "It is highly unlikely you will ever recover your money from the original scam or fraud"
- 8Expect to be approached again, and expect the next approach to look nothing like this one. Being contacted twice is not a sign that the third contact is genuine
* This information is for guidance only. Always seek professional advice for your specific situation.
Who to Contact for Help
Central Bank of Ireland
0818 681 681The number the Central Bank publishes for checking whether a firm is authorised, alongside +353 (0)1 224 5800. This page is also the source of every Central Bank quote above
An Garda Síochána
Local stationWhere to report the fraud. The Central Bank names the Gardaí alongside itself, and garda.ie asks you to report at your local station
Report an Unauthorised Firm
centralbank.ieThe Central Bank's own form for reporting or querying a firm that is not authorised. Free to use
Central Bank Registers
registers.centralbank.ieCheck a firm before you deal with it. A firm that cannot be found here is not authorised to provide the service it is offering you
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